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	<title>Comments on: Alan Cooper Told The Audience What They Wanted To Hear, Not What They Needed To Hear</title>
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		<title>By: Doug LeMoine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug LeMoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a Cooper consultant for the past eight years, and I&#039;ll try to add a little perspective from the consulting side. When Alan talks about &quot;business people,&quot; I think he&#039;s really talking about &quot;the business,&quot; as in the posture/stance/direction of the business as a whole, or the executives who plot the course in a macro way. Almost every client I&#039;ve worked for has had at least one business person who shares our values and priorities; like Niti says above, without that person, we&#039;d never get in the door.  

Still, we bump up against the edges of our design sandbox often. We&#039;re often confronted with UI decisions that strike at key elements of the client&#039;s business. What is &quot;right&quot; for the design may alter (slightly, radically) the product&#039;s definition and may therefore also change (slightly, radically) the core offering of the business. We obviously can&#039;t make decisions like these in a vacuum, and I think that part of Alan&#039;s point is that we&#039;ve also struggled to pivot the battleship of the business on the fulcrum of the UI.

So, what&#039;s the answer? In our consulting engagements, we&#039;ve had success in winning over key executives with our design rationale, research, and our method. Of course, in order to do so, we often become assimilated into the organizational borg, agreeing to bend to its rules in the short term and making relatively minor impact on its priorities and time-tables. This approach is distasteful to Alan because it rings of appeasement and he&#039;s a lot less willing to go along with strategies that, in his heart, he knows are wrong. Hence his insurgent approach. 

Eight years on, I&#039;ve seen organizations in which nothing other than an insurgency would work, but I&#039;ve also seen &quot;business people&quot; associated with our projects move on and up to positions of more and more influence. Like Brandon Schauer said on another blog, it&#039;s really all about reading the situation and determining the right approach, but there&#039;s no question that we&#039;re much more successful when we&#039;re allied with savvy, powerful people on the business side.

Anyway, thanks for the interesting take, Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a Cooper consultant for the past eight years, and I&#8217;ll try to add a little perspective from the consulting side. When Alan talks about &#8220;business people,&#8221; I think he&#8217;s really talking about &#8220;the business,&#8221; as in the posture/stance/direction of the business as a whole, or the executives who plot the course in a macro way. Almost every client I&#8217;ve worked for has had at least one business person who shares our values and priorities; like Niti says above, without that person, we&#8217;d never get in the door.  </p>
<p>Still, we bump up against the edges of our design sandbox often. We&#8217;re often confronted with UI decisions that strike at key elements of the client&#8217;s business. What is &#8220;right&#8221; for the design may alter (slightly, radically) the product&#8217;s definition and may therefore also change (slightly, radically) the core offering of the business. We obviously can&#8217;t make decisions like these in a vacuum, and I think that part of Alan&#8217;s point is that we&#8217;ve also struggled to pivot the battleship of the business on the fulcrum of the UI.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s the answer? In our consulting engagements, we&#8217;ve had success in winning over key executives with our design rationale, research, and our method. Of course, in order to do so, we often become assimilated into the organizational borg, agreeing to bend to its rules in the short term and making relatively minor impact on its priorities and time-tables. This approach is distasteful to Alan because it rings of appeasement and he&#8217;s a lot less willing to go along with strategies that, in his heart, he knows are wrong. Hence his insurgent approach. </p>
<p>Eight years on, I&#8217;ve seen organizations in which nothing other than an insurgency would work, but I&#8217;ve also seen &#8220;business people&#8221; associated with our projects move on and up to positions of more and more influence. Like Brandon Schauer said on another blog, it&#8217;s really all about reading the situation and determining the right approach, but there&#8217;s no question that we&#8217;re much more successful when we&#8217;re allied with savvy, powerful people on the business side.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the interesting take, Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Book Review: The Inmates are Running the Asylum » The Productologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Book Review: The Inmates are Running the Asylum » The Productologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have been meaning to read this seminal text on application development and usability for some time (read: years), but somehow it always ended up on my reading list just below something else. After seeing some others reference the book and discuss conference talks where the author expanded on his theorems, I decided to bump The Inmates are Running the Asylum to the top of the list. After finishing it up, I was surprised, to say the least. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have been meaning to read this seminal text on application development and usability for some time (read: years), but somehow it always ended up on my reading list just below something else. After seeing some others reference the book and discuss conference talks where the author expanded on his theorems, I decided to bump The Inmates are Running the Asylum to the top of the list. After finishing it up, I was surprised, to say the least. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Alan Cooper&#039;s standpoint strange and a touch ironic, especially how he helped inspire the use of personas and how they help fulfil business objectives. 

Design is not art, we do it because we are paid and we do it for a customer who is paying for it. There is craft and skill in what we do but we do not decide how products are created without a brief. Doing it with a personal brief would be art and not design.

There is a clear difference that Alan seems to be ignoring. Its always good to be evangelical about your design practice but without a level of transparency that all stakeholders can see then we are creating ivory towers - and that is a real problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Alan Cooper&#8217;s standpoint strange and a touch ironic, especially how he helped inspire the use of personas and how they help fulfil business objectives. </p>
<p>Design is not art, we do it because we are paid and we do it for a customer who is paying for it. There is craft and skill in what we do but we do not decide how products are created without a brief. Doing it with a personal brief would be art and not design.</p>
<p>There is a clear difference that Alan seems to be ignoring. Its always good to be evangelical about your design practice but without a level of transparency that all stakeholders can see then we are creating ivory towers &#8211; and that is a real problem.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin doohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin doohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a check writer, I think Peter&#039;s points are right on.  We need to articulate from the first dollar *why* we are making the choices we do.  It&#039;s not all about ROI.  It can absolutely be about return on a wide number of objectives.  But you need to quantatively measure success.

Ignoring the customer (and I mean the customer not the consumer) or assuming he/she doesn&#039;t get it is not a good idea at all.

Business owners are craftspeople too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a check writer, I think Peter&#8217;s points are right on.  We need to articulate from the first dollar *why* we are making the choices we do.  It&#8217;s not all about ROI.  It can absolutely be about return on a wide number of objectives.  But you need to quantatively measure success.</p>
<p>Ignoring the customer (and I mean the customer not the consumer) or assuming he/she doesn&#8217;t get it is not a good idea at all.</p>
<p>Business owners are craftspeople too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Soltzberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Soltzberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was missing for me in Alan&#039;s presentation were stories about how he&#039;s road tested his insurgency in actual consulting engagements. 

It&#039;s easy to espouse big change. The deeper challenge is to implement it in situations with real constraints and entrenched processes, and the true test of a set of ideas is in seeing them succeed in these situations.

I&#039;ve posted more on this at http://www.portigal.com/blog/you-say-you-want-a-revolution/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was missing for me in Alan&#8217;s presentation were stories about how he&#8217;s road tested his insurgency in actual consulting engagements. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to espouse big change. The deeper challenge is to implement it in situations with real constraints and entrenched processes, and the true test of a set of ideas is in seeing them succeed in these situations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted more on this at <a href="http://www.portigal.com/blog/you-say-you-want-a-revolution/" rel="nofollow">http://www.portigal.com/blog/you-say-you-want-a-revolution/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adina Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adina Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. There were a few large questions going begging.  Such as who pays the paychecks for the brilliant people, and who is accountable to the customers, when you have customers. If you do it yourself, then golly, you have become (horrors) a business person. If you expect someone else to do it for you, then you have to deal with business people.

Steve Jobs&#039; success with the iPod was not just about a gorgeous product, but about how people will buy music and how Apple will get paid for it. The b-word.

The attidude that Cooper advocates is, pay me for I am brilliant, and will eventually create something of value, though I cannot tell you what or when. There is a limited number of people who can pull this off. People with this attitude who expect to be rewarded are mostly setting up to be disappointed and bitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. There were a few large questions going begging.  Such as who pays the paychecks for the brilliant people, and who is accountable to the customers, when you have customers. If you do it yourself, then golly, you have become (horrors) a business person. If you expect someone else to do it for you, then you have to deal with business people.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs&#8217; success with the iPod was not just about a gorgeous product, but about how people will buy music and how Apple will get paid for it. The b-word.</p>
<p>The attidude that Cooper advocates is, pay me for I am brilliant, and will eventually create something of value, though I cannot tell you what or when. There is a limited number of people who can pull this off. People with this attitude who expect to be rewarded are mostly setting up to be disappointed and bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take. You nailed one of the false dichotomies I think he made in that talk.

Ultimately a good commercial product has to be a good business proposition, or it won&#039;t succeed. Steve Jobs provides another example there: the NeXT cube and workstation, which were brilliantly designed and a business disaster.

My fear is that Cooper looks on both businesspeople and engineers as necessary evils to executing his vision. Whenever any specialist says, &quot;Everything will go better if my specialty is in charge,&quot; it gives me the willies. That was certainly his claim at the beginning of the decade, and I think he&#039;s made some progress, but essentially believes that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take. You nailed one of the false dichotomies I think he made in that talk.</p>
<p>Ultimately a good commercial product has to be a good business proposition, or it won&#8217;t succeed. Steve Jobs provides another example there: the NeXT cube and workstation, which were brilliantly designed and a business disaster.</p>
<p>My fear is that Cooper looks on both businesspeople and engineers as necessary evils to executing his vision. Whenever any specialist says, &#8220;Everything will go better if my specialty is in charge,&#8221; it gives me the willies. That was certainly his claim at the beginning of the decade, and I think he&#8217;s made some progress, but essentially believes that.</p>
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		<title>By: niti bhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>niti bhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to mention that in any large organization its the business people who sign the checks to fund the projects. that won&#039;t happen without &#039;buy in&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention that in any large organization its the business people who sign the checks to fund the projects. that won&#8217;t happen without &#8216;buy in&#8217;</p>
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