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		<title>By: The Capacity Evolution Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The LimiTaTions of T</title>
		<link>http://www.peterme.com/2007/08/14/beyond-the-t-coordinating-realistic-design-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-110614</link>
		<dc:creator>The Capacity Evolution Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The LimiTaTions of T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] peterme.comÂ there is a good discussion about this: Let me step back a bit. I have long had issue with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zach Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.peterme.com/2007/08/14/beyond-the-t-coordinating-realistic-design-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-110603</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I&#039;m jumping into this conversation kind of late but...I think you&#039;ve hit the T-shaped nail on the head. It&#039;s not that &quot;T&quot; is better &quot;I&quot; or a &quot;bar&quot; or &quot;Ï€&quot; shaped or whatever we want to label people as. What we&#039;re talking about is the way in which people engage the world and their capacity to do so. In my work, we help people and organizations develop &quot;T&quot; and, after &quot;T&quot;, &quot;H-shaped capacity which is similar, perhaps, to the way in which you describe your ability to integrate. These labels, though, are just that and we caution people not to get stuck on the types and the characteristics of a particular &quot;shape.&quot; 

What is important is the recognition of and respect for a diversity of worldviews and the ability of the team or organization to innovate and stay flexible and loose. The more the team can learn from and capitalize on their differences the stronger, happier and more productive they will be as a whole.

Recognizing the strengths and weaknesses we all bring to the meeting table is essential. We don&#039;t want to get hung up on people &quot;I&quot; &quot;T&quot; &quot;M&quot; &quot;W&quot; or whatever we want to call ourselves. But, we do want to appreciate and understand who we are working with, how they see the world and how we can work well together. If the shaped based analogies work, great. If not, let&#039;s find a better way to relate and communicate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m jumping into this conversation kind of late but&#8230;I think you&#8217;ve hit the T-shaped nail on the head. It&#8217;s not that &#8220;T&#8221; is better &#8220;I&#8221; or a &#8220;bar&#8221; or &#8220;Ï€&#8221; shaped or whatever we want to label people as. What we&#8217;re talking about is the way in which people engage the world and their capacity to do so. In my work, we help people and organizations develop &#8220;T&#8221; and, after &#8220;T&#8221;, &#8220;H-shaped capacity which is similar, perhaps, to the way in which you describe your ability to integrate. These labels, though, are just that and we caution people not to get stuck on the types and the characteristics of a particular &#8220;shape.&#8221; </p>
<p>What is important is the recognition of and respect for a diversity of worldviews and the ability of the team or organization to innovate and stay flexible and loose. The more the team can learn from and capitalize on their differences the stronger, happier and more productive they will be as a whole.</p>
<p>Recognizing the strengths and weaknesses we all bring to the meeting table is essential. We don&#8217;t want to get hung up on people &#8220;I&#8221; &#8220;T&#8221; &#8220;M&#8221; &#8220;W&#8221; or whatever we want to call ourselves. But, we do want to appreciate and understand who we are working with, how they see the world and how we can work well together. If the shaped based analogies work, great. If not, let&#8217;s find a better way to relate and communicate.</p>
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		<title>By: sneedleflipsockTheBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revisiting the t-shaped graduate</title>
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		<dc:creator>sneedleflipsockTheBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Revisiting the t-shaped graduate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More recently, Peter Merholz realised that he&#8217;s not t-shaped &#8212; and that a team full of tees doesn&#8217;t necessarily work. To form an effective workgroup you need some synthesisers and other personality types.  Posted in knowledge management, unimelb &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohoh, that doesnâ€™t have an easy to articulate shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohoh, that doesnâ€™t have an easy to articulate shape.</p>
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		<title>By: letspushthingsforward.com &#62; log</title>
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		<dc:creator>letspushthingsforward.com &#62; log</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Senjem</title>
		<link>http://www.peterme.com/2007/08/14/beyond-the-t-coordinating-realistic-design-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-33588</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary Senjem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In web development, I have found that there are folks whose talents more resemble an &#039;m&#039; or an &#039;n&#039;, who either feel pressured to masquerade as a T or end up getting lumped in with I&#039;s. The more I think about it, I could find someone I know to fit just about any letter of the alphabet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In web development, I have found that there are folks whose talents more resemble an &#8216;m&#8217; or an &#8216;n&#8217;, who either feel pressured to masquerade as a T or end up getting lumped in with I&#8217;s. The more I think about it, I could find someone I know to fit just about any letter of the alphabet!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right on here Peter, and I&#039;m in the same boat that articulating my &quot;leg&quot; is rather difficult.

Another way I&#039;ve thought about is based on the typical People/Business/Technology triad, arranged as 3 circles in a Venn diagram. I think of &quot;kidney-shaped&quot; people. In other words people who cover one of those main three areas and then spread to overlap one or both of the others to a degree. If you can imagine a kidney bean running around the perimeter of the Venn diagram.

OK, a bit hard to visualize, easier with a drawing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right on here Peter, and I&#8217;m in the same boat that articulating my &#8220;leg&#8221; is rather difficult.</p>
<p>Another way I&#8217;ve thought about is based on the typical People/Business/Technology triad, arranged as 3 circles in a Venn diagram. I think of &#8220;kidney-shaped&#8221; people. In other words people who cover one of those main three areas and then spread to overlap one or both of the others to a degree. If you can imagine a kidney bean running around the perimeter of the Venn diagram.</p>
<p>OK, a bit hard to visualize, easier with a drawing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time with any system seeking to categorize people into neat little personality type buckets. 

Who is the &quot;user&quot; of these categorization systems? 

Well, for the person being characterized, it always either (a) rings very false, missing the mark completely, or (b) it is so empty and flattering to the ego that it could describe anyone, like a horoscope saying &quot;you are creative and will find happiness&quot; (Peter, you are probably one of the few people who has ever read about T-shaped people and actually didn&#039;t think immediately &quot;Yes, I am definitely one of those awesome T-shaped people!&quot;.

Conversely, for a person evaluating another person based on such simple characterizations, for example an employer or a team-builder, it enables laziness and shallow people-reading. It lets us forego real investigation and learning about people&#039;s strengths and weaknesses.

So what use is any discussion of T-shaped people? Such instruments are the tools of giant lumbering corporate HR departments and of course the military, where their main objective is to weed out the sociopaths as best they can (a low bar indeed), but they are hamfisted bludgeons for people who want to build small, creative, and energetic teams of highly skilled and talented people.

Peter, your gut distrust is right on. Go all the way with it: Let&#039;s stop defining people&#039;s shapes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time with any system seeking to categorize people into neat little personality type buckets. </p>
<p>Who is the &#8220;user&#8221; of these categorization systems? </p>
<p>Well, for the person being characterized, it always either (a) rings very false, missing the mark completely, or (b) it is so empty and flattering to the ego that it could describe anyone, like a horoscope saying &#8220;you are creative and will find happiness&#8221; (Peter, you are probably one of the few people who has ever read about T-shaped people and actually didn&#8217;t think immediately &#8220;Yes, I am definitely one of those awesome T-shaped people!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Conversely, for a person evaluating another person based on such simple characterizations, for example an employer or a team-builder, it enables laziness and shallow people-reading. It lets us forego real investigation and learning about people&#8217;s strengths and weaknesses.</p>
<p>So what use is any discussion of T-shaped people? Such instruments are the tools of giant lumbering corporate HR departments and of course the military, where their main objective is to weed out the sociopaths as best they can (a low bar indeed), but they are hamfisted bludgeons for people who want to build small, creative, and energetic teams of highly skilled and talented people.</p>
<p>Peter, your gut distrust is right on. Go all the way with it: Let&#8217;s stop defining people&#8217;s shapes!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that the metaphor is limiting. T-shaped people are usually interesting, but that doesn&#039;t at all mean they are productive, creative, or useful on a team.

I went off on the &quot;T-shaped&quot; metaphor myself a while back: http://ryskamp.org/brain/creativity/against-tshaped-people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that the metaphor is limiting. T-shaped people are usually interesting, but that doesn&#8217;t at all mean they are productive, creative, or useful on a team.</p>
<p>I went off on the &#8220;T-shaped&#8221; metaphor myself a while back: <a href="http://ryskamp.org/brain/creativity/against-tshaped-people" rel="nofollow">http://ryskamp.org/brain/creativity/against-tshaped-people</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Armano</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Armano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I liked the &quot;Tetris&quot; analogy I heard aboutâ€”did that come from you?

Also, I&#039;ve evolved my thinking on this since I put that stake in the ground a couple of years ago.  I know &quot;Sun Shaped&quot; doen&#039;t sound as sexy a &quot;T-shaped&quot; but take a look as it speaks to your point about Passion.

http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/tshaped_sun_sha.html

And on teams:
http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/collaborate_the.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I liked the &#8220;Tetris&#8221; analogy I heard aboutâ€”did that come from you?</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve evolved my thinking on this since I put that stake in the ground a couple of years ago.  I know &#8220;Sun Shaped&#8221; doen&#8217;t sound as sexy a &#8220;T-shaped&#8221; but take a look as it speaks to your point about Passion.</p>
<p><a href="http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/tshaped_sun_sha.html" rel="nofollow">http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/tshaped_sun_sha.html</a></p>
<p>And on teams:<br />
<a href="http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/collaborate_the.html" rel="nofollow">http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2007/04/collaborate_the.html</a></p>
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